The 30S is a bit shorter than the 250’s, weight about the same, carry/carry concealed not much difference although I can tuck the 30S a bit better on super scorcher days, I give it to the 30S, .45 to .45. Another readily visible difference can be easily seen when looking closely at the business ends of Gen 3 and Gen 4 pistols. I am an old Marine and grew up on 1911A1’s. It works for me. Since Taurus bought the Brazilian Factory off “Berretta”, Every part of the Guns is made by Taurus!…. You’re saying the G36/G30S slide is trimmer than the G29’s? I’ve had my G30S for the better part of a year now and have carried it frequently. I mean come on, these are Glocks, not high-end custom 1911s. Barrel Length: 3.77″ Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The 30S provides reliable firepower in a compact, accurate and affordable package that conceals easily and shoots well. I just want to make it more usable in different applications. If I hadn’t been so lazy this is the gun I would have reviewed. Glock reportedly put that little bulge on there to make sure the firing pin stays centered when striking the primer of a chambered cartridge. Gun Review: Cobra CA380 – The Cheapest Handgun in America! Some who otherwise loved the Glock 30 for well over a decade complained its wide slide bothered them in terms of concealment. Whatever…. Survey of 13 Gun Owners Proves SAFE Act Encourages Mentally Ill to Seek Help. The recoil spring assembly has been upgraded to a Gen 4 style, which also helps alleviate the kick of shooting .45 from a light pistol. in SOF…yes that old 8-] This is a good review of a very Bought you’self a Maglula Uplula mag loader. I’ve never felt inadequate with what I have: a gunsmith-tuned Norc commander, But being the true blue handgun enthusiast that I am, and being a guy who likes to try something new from time to time like all red-blooded men do, especially when that something is being sold at a bargain, I recently took a passing interest in a Gen 4, All Gen 4 models now have a “Gen 4” stamp laser-etched on their slides, Another new feature that distinguishes Gen 4 pistols from previous-gen Glocks is its finish. Comfortable even for my size, short fat and squatty, all ass and no body. Choose Genuine Factory Magazines For Top Performance & Reliability. The weapon twists to toe left with these high power loads and I found that troubling. Not only is the magazine release bigger on Gen 4 Glocks, they’re also designed to be reversible out of the box. September 30, 2019 Topic: Security Region: ... GLOCK GEN 4 PROBLEMS. I have read of G30 G4 owners that have made their FrankenGlock with this combination and reported reliability. Both are soft shooters. I’ve seen some skateboard tape style strips for sale online that enhance the traction for slide manipulation. There’s slack, then a little take up (as the trigger cocks the last little bit of the striker) then a fairly clean break and some smooshy overtravel. Celebrating 30 Years in the US ; Firearms Education All About Ammo ... As a GLOCK owner, we want to make sure you have all the tools to protect your GLOCK pistol, and get the most out of it. Im new to glock but im a big 40 and 45 guy and the glock 30s is the best feeling one I have ever owned. The only accessories I did to the 30S were practical/functional ones. Note that aftermarket barrels for the G36 will fit the 30S slide. I’m deducting a half star for the lack of caliber conversion barrels. For more information go to www.p65Warnings.ca.gov. I’ve never felt inadequate with what I have: a gunsmith-tuned Norc commander 1911 in .45 ACP, a Taurus 689 VR 6-inch in .357 Magnum, and a Rock Island M202 in .38 Special. This was the genesis of early parts swaps between the 30 and the 36, and the creation of the 30S introduced in 2013. I have recently bought the 30s and I am considering various methods of concealment. You should look into a modern modem where the phone line plugs into the modem itself. It shoots softly, experienced NO mag pinch ruining 10’s or 13’s. Yeah…but the If I could criticize the g30s it would be the lack of forward slide serrations. And speaking of magazines, Gen 4 pistols now come with three magazines in the box instead of the usual two (though Gen 4 pistols typically cost slightly higher than Gen 3s even when factoring in the cost of the additional magazine and the backstraps). The reach of the Glock empire is furthering, and it has a choke hold to the .45 cal market. If you’re somewhere in the middle and are looking for a good concealed carry gun in a heavy-hitting caliber, give the 30S a shot. I take the 30S almost exclusively CCW outside work. I recently bought a 30S and a Springfield Government 1911 (planning on Wild Bunch shooting). The Berreta 92FS http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/01/daniel-zimmerman/gun-review-beretta-92-fs-compact-l/9mm was the first gun I ever fired. $248 at Buds. I’ve got tractions on mine, makes a world of difference and they are around 10 bucks. Both are dead ringers, but if I want to carry a .45 for whatever logic I decide upon, I go to the 30S. IWB nylon holster. If you’re in the same situation I’m in and you’re torn between any previous generation Glocks and their Gen 4 counterparts, read on. Just got one and wow love it. It is reliable, accurate, and an all around awesome gun. I started out with a S&W scandium alloy frame .357 for EDC. And the first thing people noticed with these pistols is for the first time, they all bear the Gen4 mark on the slide. One knock on the 30S is that, unlike other GLOCK 30 models, the slide design has prevented easy conversions to other calibers. I can carry the pistol and a spare mag all day in reasonable comfort, and it has become my go-to gun for road trips. Another new feature that distinguishes Gen 4 pistols from previous-gen Glocks is its finish. One knock on the 30S is that, unlike other GLOCK 30 models, the slide design has prevented easy conversions to other calibers. Within a few days they got back to me stating they had changed my order to the 30s. Have one, and a SIG P250 compact in 9mm and .45. Field-stripping the pistol and examining the internals reveal a bulge on that part of the trigger bar that sticks out (this part is supposed to deactivate the trigger safety whenever the trigger is pulled, thus firing the weapon). I still have it for when I CC. The recommendation to make sure the trigger is covered in all your holsters is to prevent the accidental discharge of the weapon. Good luck. Both are enticing offers — but even if I had money to spare, I’m not sure I’d want one over the other. They’re chambered for the same caliber too, and except for the latter version having a stamp on the slide that says Gen 4, they look and feel the same. Carry * * * * * Glock released the Gen 4 in 2010. Tried one on the local range and after 50 rds only 3 fliers. The sights are a bit underwhelming, and the subcompact build might not work best for everyone. The grooves can be removed btw. My favorite EDC just about all the time. Customize This * * * * ½ Your love-affair with punctuation makes it almost impossible to read your comment. The 30S also has an accessory rail, so you can stick a light and/or a laser on if you like, though it might stick out past the muzzle. I really wanted the 45 since my employer gives me unlimited 45, but had to settle with what was comfortable and I know I am very accurate with the 40. There might be something out there that won’t cycle in this gun, but I haven’t found it yet. . I ordered the only pocket holster I could find online for the 30s from Alabama Holster (www.alabamaholster.com). Suggestion for your holster: you may want to look at the Comptac Infidel IWB holster. Can’t say enough good about it. The weapon twists to toe left with these high power loads and I found that troubling. Finish: Black The GLOCK 30 SF in 45 Auto caliber has a shortened frame with reduced grip dimensions. But I’m just curious as to how many rounds you’ve put through the gun before the review. I also have a 21 and I can’t tell a difference in recoil between the two. Such problems are dependent on hand size and grip, so I can’t make any predictions as to what, if any, difficulties others may have with fingers getting pinched in the gap, except to note that it’s a possibility. Granted, my wrist is held together with parts harvested from other areas of my wrist, but it was just wasn’t pleasant for me to shoot. It has a trigger safety, a striker block, and a drop safety. when not at the range. {Love}_~- affair?,,,, \/\/ / punctuation; “‘makes’ it almost” Impossible!? My next gun will be a Taurus pt ,140g2. Recoil is typical Glock and with the Glock Glove is just makes shooting fun. It’s very functional for fighting/self defense but anyone who competes with one will want to improve it. Any idea if the reliability problems from the Glock 36 are translating to the 30S? At the time I ordered mine the g30s wasn’t on their website as an option. -I know just have 9 … I find that it has more of a push as opposed to a snap in the recoil. Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by hug, Aug 20, 2016. Diamondback DBX57 Video Review: 5.7x28mm Piston-Driven Pistol, Class 3 Machining and My Suppressed Ruger-57 [VIDEO]. Glock pistols chambered for .40 S&W use the exact same dimension recoil guide rod and spring that 9mm Glocks pistols use. Why is that important? I don’t remember it as being harder to rack than other pistols. Neither could anyone else. These 3 things have made a world of difference in the 30S shooting enjoyment. The original versions of this pistol were cobbled together by GLOCK enthusiasts who would put the slide from a GLOCK 36 (a single-stack .45 ACP) onto the frame of a GLOCK 30 (a double stack .45 ACP). The Glock 30 SF Handgun has One Problem. The 30S being new, … Roy Clagg, Recoil But if I’m choosing between carrying anything but just my J frame to the Dollar Store, and I want one of my .45’s, this takes it everytime. Any idea if there’s any consideration of doing the 30s treatment to a Glock 29? These recoil springs are much different from the old springs as they’re captive (meaning the user wouldn’t have to worry about losing the spring when they field strip the gun as it’s attached to the guide rod). Ergonomics * * * * I put at least 100 rounds downrange when I bought it, and have probably taken it out often enough to have broken the 500 mark by now. I went to get a 30S but when holding it, it was really uncomfortable. With the slightest changes in the overall dimensions of the frame and slide, a somewhat smaller trigger group has to be used. I have a new Glock 30S and have shot it a total of 2 times and 250 rounds. I wouldn’t put 45 GAP in a 45ACP pistol. CARING FOR YOUR GLOCK Overall, this is an excellent pistol that I highly recommend to anyone who wants a compact .45 as their carry piece. However, when compared side-by-side with other versions of the GLOCK 30 (which I was able to do when buying) the difference is significant. I have the 30s 45acp and LOVE it. WARNING. My favorite is an old police Glock 17 Gen 2. All semi automatics have a chance of a problem extracting a spent casing or feeding the next round into the chamber. These reviews have helped. The grips were designed to be smaller for two reasons: one, so that people with smaller hands get a more solid purchase on it; and two, so that it can accommodate another new feature — interchangeable backstraps support. Not only is the magazine release bigger on Gen 4 Glocks, they’re also designed to be reversible out of the box. Today, we’re taking a look at the problems commonly associated with Gen 4 Glock pistols in general. I have tried but cant make myself like the Gen3’s of any size, the texture always feels slippery in my hands and the grip is a hair too wide. While I prefer the G30 Gen4 grip, I find the Gen3 grip of the 30S to be adequate, and for those who wish to modify it, there is no shortage of aftermarket options. My EDC is an older G30 that is bone stock and it is a bit bulky but a fantastic gun. Action: Striker Fired This means a Gen 3 recoil guide rod will not fit in a Gen 4 slide unless you use one of the adapter rings they sell on their website. Comparing Gen 3 and Gen 4 slides, we noticed that there are slight differences especially in stress points where some of the slide’s walls are longer and thicker. Sian, Can you expand on your comment that it is not recommended to carry the G30s without a holster that covers the trigger? Tried the 23gen4 with the small grip, that was gone. Comparing Gen 3 … While smaller, lighter guns exist, they may be lacking the capacity or reputation of the Glock 30S. floorplate is OK for my average sized hands. GLOCK officially introduced the 30S in 2013, but it has existed much longer. Recoil is more than the others- but not bad- the darn thing just works. It would have been nice had GLOCK included the Gen4 magazine catch, and the magazine springs are annoyingly stiff as well. Key point: Changes in frame and grip dimensions have resulted in several complaints about generation 4 Glocks. it went back to Miami 3 times. Hymmnm Glock, is a lilttle to late for this one!…. Heh. I think that would probably be a good purchase YMMV. . In addition to the 10-round magazines that come standard with the various GLOCK 30 models, GLOCK also makes 9-round magazines that sit flush with the bottom of the grip and provide an even smaller profile (these were scarce for a while, but now seem to be readily available). Reset is short, positive, and somewhat loud. Sleeker and lighter is the way to go in a gun that will be tucked inside your waistband or hanging off your belt all day. While I could have just saved money and bought the G30S, I like the features of the Gen 4 such as the wide mag release, improved grip texture, shorter LOP just like the G30SF, and modular back straps. The grip is comfortable (even if I prefer a Gen4 grip) and the recoil is very manageable for such a lightweight .45. ammo…100%. Had to get an Extra Power striker spring. The flyers came in two distinct ways: 1. Reliability * * * * * Nice review Nathaniel. I have been carrying a Glock 30S for the last two years after retiring from 30 years in LE via southern California. I sometimes use Glock Shooting Gloves and that combination of Glove & Gun makes for some comfortable shooting. It is all of the things you describe with great balance and just feels and shoots with the characteristics of a fine defensive combat pistol. Cooler weather, I always go to my SIG P250 (grew up shooting revolvers and love the double action revolver esque trigger) in 9 mm. The old spring doesn’t have this steel lip — it just rides against the guide rod, similar to how typical 1911 recoil springs function. There is no break in period; it works right out of the box. Why Glock, a different grip/mag from all you other guns? To* your….. comment, . Had you thought about decal grips, such as traction grips or Talon grips? is tolerable and reliability with my favorite defensive It’s powerful, accurate, reliable, customizable and affordable. Out of the 12 HGs in my stable this other than a Dan Wesson Valor will be my only and first Glock that I own, the rest are CZs. All factory and never a failure with factory ammo, even very old WWII surplus ball ammo. Comparing the 30S to other variants of the G30 (like, say, the G30sf), it might seem that the thinner slide is just a gimmick: losing about 3.5 ounces and 1/8 inch off the slide may not seem significant on paper. Interestingly, the problem with the finger in the trigger guard could be solved by putting a concave curve in the trigger as other manufacturers have done. A 1/4-pound weight saving is always appreciated on a “carry gun.” So is slimness, particularly when carrying inside … My only gripe is the slide release is junk but that is fixable. Somehow, no matter how thoughtful that sentiment may (or may not) be, the thought of not being able to claim my prize still stings…hold on a minute, I need to wipe the condensation off the window again so I can see what freedom looks like for those on the “other side” of the iron curtain…. My first-ever shot with this pistol was dead center, and while I haven’t always shot that well, that isn’t the gun’s fault. They were ideal ccw. Funny timing for this write-up. Good review. I have no problems with my 30S, and I don't feel undergunned when I have it. I love the fact that I can carry hi-cap 13 round mags in my home state and convert to legal mags when traveling in a slave state. I literally live with the 30S on my hip. Out of the box, Glocks come with four interchangeable backstraps from which people with bigger hands could choose to customize the overall width and feel of the grip. I’ll admit I’m not a Glock fan but if there was ever one I’d consider, it’s this. It has a lot of take up until you reach a crisp break break over and a bit more travel. I can easily hit milk jugs at 50 yards and for fun routinely tag silhouetes at 75. This could be one of two things. I have tinkered with all my Glocks, but I have tried to leave my 30S as stock as possible because I carry it often enough. It is possible to have an unintended discharge but this is no different than any other glock made. Because of the reversible magazine release button feature, Glock also designed the magazines to have notches on both sides. They’ve been around since the mid-80’s. It holds nice groups firing fast too. Some who otherwise loved the Glock 30 for well over a decade complained its wide slide bothered them in terms of concealment. Thanks for the great review! http://certguns.doj.ca.gov. Shooting and showing the new Glock 30S, a great little defensive pistol in .45 ACP. Will a Glock 30 Gen 4 with a 23 lbs. I carried a Glock 30 CC for almost 13 years before graduating to OC. It’s not like I doubt the Glock reliability or anything I just wanna know. The result retained the 10+1 capacity of the G30 while shedding weight and slide width. Mastro, Left-handed shooters can now easily install the button on the handgun’s left side so they can actuate it with their left thumb. Be confident your Glock® pistol will perform to factory standards each and every time with genuine Glock® factory magazines. The… It’s a GLOCK. With all due respect to the venerable, beautiful, and often very expensive 1911 design, guns like the GLOCK 30S are guns for the people. Really, If I could have only one handgun I can’t beat the versatility of this piece. Perhaps some members who have experience with a 30S can let you know if they had any issues. Wanting to stay with 45ACP in a smaller, lighter and higher capacity weapon I recently purchased a G30S. [Certainly “not” Glock!…]. “Your”! Even with the medium backstrap on my Gen4 Glock 22 (supposedly same circumfrance as the Gen3 grip) I still feel a lot more confident with the texture. But I know somehow that stamp isn’t just for show. It only goes off if the trigger is pulled. She shoots the 30S better as well. Caliber: .45 Auto I sold my 23gen3 to my father. Carol, I believe the Glock 30s is chambered for .45 ACP, the manual that came with the pistol will tell you. 45ACP is an excellent round, and is more common than the GAP making it less expensive to manufacture and less expensive to buy, so you are better off with the .45 ACP anyway. I plan on getting one for my Glock when it arrives. My problem, I had a G36. I did upgrade to the 13 round magazine for more firepower. I have a new Glock 30S and have shot it a total of 2 times and 250 rounds. I love my G30S, she’s sweet and she’s a keeper. Model: GLOCK 30S The G36 width slide on the Gen4 G30 would be nirvana, but as it is the standard slide is just too wide, it works ok on the G21’s I have handled but feels weird for a smaller gun. I can’t recall a single failure out of the hundreds of rounds I’ve put through it. Accuracy * * * * 1/2 For this review I took it to the range with a box of Herter’s 230 grain brass-cased ammo, slapped an 8-inch target on a cardboard box, and took my first three shots from a bench at about 10 yards. Thanks Nathanael! If you want stock only – change to an OEM G21 smooth-faced trigger ($15) This is an outstanding self-defense pistol. When I was at the LGS counter I had the G30S, G30 G4, and a Larry Vickers G19 G3 in front of me. In addition to changes in the grips’ overall dimensions, Gen 4 Glocks now have a more aggressive texturing, which is a lot different from Gen 3 RTF (rough texture frame) grips that have uncomfortable needle-like checkering. I think I was having so much fun shooting that I must have gotten complacent with the grip, causing the malfunction. Yes I have changed guns, to a Glock 36 for easier discrete carry, then to a Springfield Armory XDs, but the Glock 30 enjoys a prominent place in whatever vehicle I'm driving. 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